Eva Dalak’s expertise in international relations, politics, diplomacy, and law took her from legal and diplomatic work to institutional conflicts to training peace workers in international war zones. Losing her eyesight unleashed her divine feminine and the twin insights that ‘there’s no conflict where we’re not emotionally involved,’ and, ‘peace comes from forgiving ourselves for believing we’re separate.’
Zach Bush, MD, is triple board-certified in internal medicine, endocrinology, and hospice care. His work spans from treating individual cancer patients to understanding cellular isolation, soil degradation, and human-nature separation as the root of disease to now focusing on collective spontaneous remission through reconnection. His life’s work has consistently focused on healing separation on different scales.
In this excerpt, our guests explain both how the Drama Triangle has served humanity and why healing happens through biology AND psychology. Hear the full conversation on The Gifts of Trauma Podcast.
Zach: We don’t need to demonize or judge the victim-perpetrator-savior triad. It got us to where we are today. It’s served us for 5,000, 7,000, or 70,000 years. It brought us to this moment where the triad holds so much density; rather than reject it, we should use it to create a gravitational relationship with the polarity of the new human, which is now in the creator mode. And when we shift from savior to creator, we no longer need the victim and perpetrator to rationalize our self-worth.
Throughout history, the savior has had to find victim-perpetrator dyads to perpetuate its belief that it is the savior. When we shift from savior to creator, we no longer need a victim or perpetrator, and so we no longer need to create systems of wealth and military imbalance to perpetuate these old patterns. When we move to creator, we move into polarity with the whole history of humankind.
Editor’s note: To be in polarity to something means to exist as a distinct, opposite force or characteristic, forming a pair of contrasting but interconnected principles, like positive/negative or thinker/feeler, where one pole defines the other and the tension between them creates balance or dynamism.
So when we come into polarity with our history, our ancestry within us, and our presencing of them around us, it becomes the energy by which we move into this new energetic expression of our species. But if we dam it and bury the victim-perpetrator, we lose all of the energetic potential for our new polarity. So we need to witness our last epoch as important in previously unimagined ways. This new biology is coming out of an energetic up-leveling, rather than a genetic re-expression.
Eva: If you’re coming to me as a victim, there’s nothing I can give you because you are so attached and addicted to your story as a victim… or as a perpetrator… or as a savior. There’s not much I can do for you. But if you’re willing to step into sovereignty, if you’re willing to step into understanding this polarity, then we can fly high together and co-create this novel pathway to inner and outer peace.
If you look at how human men and women relate and interact, from the first falling in love… we’re actually falling into codependency and fusion. “Oh, my God, I found ‘The One.’ The one person I can be with for the rest of my life.” And we’re in this fusion, this codependency, and then, “Oh, my God, I can’t anymore!” And you have this independence. That’s where most divorce happens, unfortunately. But if you stick together during this harsh moment of “Oh, my God, I can’t anymore!” Then you come back to interdependence. “Oh, I can be with you and still be me. I don’t need to lose myself in you.”
It’s the same in war and peace. Nobody talks about this. Everybody approaches peace agreements wanting to negotiate and dialogue. Nobody says, “Come and work through your work with me, work through your own biology, and let’s see how you come out. You’re sovereign; don’t buy any other story.”
Zach: Can you let go of the genetic expression of 40 generations of trauma that’s pounding on your door and that creates the cacophony of chaos in your mind, heart, and soul? For a moment, can you give it space and breathe and feel into your deep ocean of memory? It is a literal ocean inside of you that remembers the original imprint of your birthright. What does it actually mean to be human? As the greatest imagining of Mother Nature, we contain more biodiversity and interconnected intelligence than any other species. The colon of the human is uniquely designed to hold more of Mother Earth than any other container she’s created so far. And so to be a human is to hold Mother Earth in an interconnected environment where your wisdom and your truth come pouring out. So as the trees speak through you, as the rivers speak through you, as the oceans speak through you, remember from your water, not from your genetics. Remember from your water, not from your ancestors. And find out in that water that your ancestors are not some past thing; they are present. All souls are present right now. Let’s let go of the trauma, allow our ancestors to be present, and allow the water of the original human design to energetically upgrade our memory.
Eva: Spiritual bypass is loving with denial. The invitation is, “Can I love without denying what’s happening right now in Palestine? Can I still keep my eyes wide open while looking at this darkness?” Yes, it’s darkness. And I am working my way through to contribute my part. That’s why it’s about activation. We are activating peace that is already here. We’re not creating anything new; we’re just activating what’s already here, in the darkness. We’re activating the biology that is already here.
I had to lose my vision. I wouldn’t have understood what I understand now if I hadn’t. We actually came here to experience this darkness. So seeking the light doesn’t make sense. We are coming from the light. We are beings of light. What we need to do is experience darkness. It was so relaxing, to be in the darkness, to not see, to not be constantly judging “This is beautiful. This is not.”
When I went back to that same place where, without my sight, I was afraid to dance. Where I was afraid of falling because I couldn’t see how much space there was around me… When I went back, I saw there was so much space. And I realized, this is how we live. We live not realizing how much space there is around us, because we’re afraid to open our eyes and see and feel how much we’re loved and supported. The invitation is, “Can I love without denying what’s happening right now? Can I find that peace inside of me and stay in that frequency of peace, regardless of what anybody says?”
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